...now try to take one item from one diagram and place it in another. It's a difficult task... more than likely a theist would group all the 'science items' at the same level, whereas a rationalist would group all of the 'faith-dependant' items at the same level on his graph.
Perhaps my bias shows in the choice of items on each chart, but all I wanted to do is show the 'horizon' of our respective value systems. It would be an interesting exercise to take all items from both charts and place them in a box, then ask an interviewee to place them all on one chart, then another. I'm sure that a theist will place things like 'bible veracity' on 'demonstrable' even if it isn't - but that would only highlight more our value differences, wouldn't it?
Hey Joe, wondering why you want to dichotomize the "two minds" -- surely there are examples of "religious minds" having "rational responses" -- also, what is the x-axis meant to represent? it seems you've made, by construction, an impossible way in which the so-called "two minds" can communicate. Are you familiar with Godel? Cantor? Arthur Peacocke? Check them out!! Open your mind! ;-)
ReplyDeleteHey, congratulations on being the first ever commenter here - this place has become my 'brainfart diary' over the years, as I've come to assume that nobody reads it. How did you come by here?
ReplyDeleteThere is no communication between the two charts, and they are two 'types' of mind. The religious mind operates on a 'reward/punishment' response system (dependant on a central leader (and his rules) to establish/maintain it), and the rational mind operates on 'degrees of proof' (from 'empirically tested personally' to 'tested and trusted peer-reviewed' to 'sounds reasonable')... the x-axis is only a dividing line between acceptance /rejection responses in both, and the dot placement along it has no meaning at all, only the y-axis matters.
Hope that made things clearer, and thanks for your interest ; )
PS: I wouldn't call going through the acrobatics of trying to make theism and science agree with each other (and adhering only to those who do this) 'opening your mind' ; )
ReplyDeleteBuckminster Fuller and Richard Feynman are two of my leading 'sensei' figures... I try to share their enthusiasm, anyway. Cheers.